“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes,” Mark Twain

Tommy Robinson sentenced to 9 months for contempt

I WENT into a public ‘ouse to get a pint o’ beer, 
The publican ‘e up an’ sez, ” We serve no red-coats here.” 
The girls be’ind the bar they laughed an’ giggled fit to die, 
I outs into the street again an’ to myself sez I: 
O it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ ” Tommy, go away ” ; 
But it’s ” Thank you, Mister Atkins,” when the band begins to play
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play, 
O it’s ” Thank you, Mister Atkins,” when the band begins to play. 

I went into a theatre as sober as could be, 
They gave a drunk civilian room, but ‘adn’t none for me; 
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-‘alls, 
But when it comes to fightin’, Lord! they’ll shove me in the stalls! 
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ ” Tommy, wait outside “;
But it’s ” Special train for Atkins ” when the trooper’s on the tide
The troopship’s on the tide, my boys, the troopship’s on the tide, 
O it’s ” Special train for Atkins ” when the trooper’s on the tide. 

Yes, makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap. 
An’ hustlin’ drunken soldiers when they’re goin’ large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit. 
Then it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an` Tommy, ‘ow’s yer soul? “
But it’s ” Thin red line of ‘eroes ” when the drums begin to roll
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll, 
O it’s ” Thin red line of ‘eroes, ” when the drums begin to roll.

We aren’t no thin red ‘eroes, nor we aren’t no blackguards too, 
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you; 
An’ if sometimes our conduck isn’t all your fancy paints, 
Why, single men in barricks don’t grow into plaster saints; 
While it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an` Tommy, fall be’ind,” 
But it’s ” Please to walk in front, sir,” when there’s trouble in the wind
There’s trouble in the wind, my boys, there’s trouble in the wind, 
O it’s ” Please to walk in front, sir,” when there’s trouble in the wind.

You talk o’ better food for us, an’ schools, an’ fires, an’ all: 
We’ll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational. 
Don’t mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow’s Uniform is not the soldier-man’s disgrace. 
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an` Chuck him out, the brute! “
But it’s ” Saviour of ‘is country ” when the guns begin to shoot; 
An’ it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please; 
An ‘Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool – you bet that Tommy sees!

R Kipling

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13 Comments on “History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes,” Mark Twain

  1. You sound to be a James Bond wannabe. The Walther PPK is a small self-defence pistol in .22LR, .32ACP., or .380ACP. and not a target pistol but it would serve you reasonably well in a confrontation with a violent criminal.

    There are heavy penalties for having an illegal gun in the U.S. as there was in Britain before and after 1997. Before you can legally buy a gun in the United States, you must submit to a federal criminal background check and even a minor transgression disbars the applicant from buying a gun. Chicago and Washington D.C. are at the top for crimes involving guns and have the most restrictive state laws for legal gun ownership.

    If cars had no wheels and no engines, car theft would be dramatically reduced.

    If the Swiss are having second thoughts about gun ownership, it will be due to an influx of non-Swiss criminals foisted upon them by the E.U.

    • We’re not going to agree on this and maybe you are totally right.
      It’s undeniable that the US has a gun problem. yes? Part of that problem is the inability to find common ground among the competing positions. My experience in dealing with non-lethal situations where there’s been endless deadlock is that doing nothing, or keeping on with the same old same old is never a way to get anything solved. You have to do something different, however apparently futile or even stupid. So I think just about any intervention would help move the gun problem forward.
      That’s why I’m disappointed in Trump on this. He has shown by his unpredictable (but maybe deliberate) behaviour (eg Korea, mexico, Latin American refugees, bawling out backsliding NATO allies, giving our stupid Mrs May an earful) that bad situations can’t get worse by trying something different. (They said Nixon was a fool for going to China – but now China is on the way to capitalism and a whole lot better than it was.)
      Nice talking to you.
      Past my bedtime.

  2. Crimes involving guns in the United States – as in Britain – are predominantly perpetrated by career criminals. Taking guns off law-abiding responsible people does not address the problem as was the case in the seizure of legally held guns for sporting use from 57,000 heavily regulated law-abiding British gun owners in 1997 who were scapegoats for political reasons following the terrible murders by Thomas Hamilton who was known to the police to be an unstable person. No agency in a free society can safeguard the public completely and it’s the price we pay for our liberties. Few reports appear in the media of a lawful gun owner preventing a crime simply by drawing a gun and displaying it. It is not realistic to eliminate guns in the U.S. and any attempt would be political suicide as there is a majority of people – not just NRA members who number only about 5 million out of 350 million – who support legal gun ownership and criminals would obviously ignore any gun bans. Substituting political reasoning with emotion is a road to chaos. You don’t fix a sick society by banning guns from the law-abiding. Switzerland is an example of a confident society where gun ownership is easily available to all its law-abiding citizens and thise who are of military service age, are required to keep their army firearms at home. A swiss friend from some years ago showed me the tripod-mounted machine gun he had in his care in his basement locker. Smite the wicked! What’s your remedy?

    • If guns are hard to come by, and semi-automatics near impossible, and every weapon has a fingerprint safety lock, and no licences for people with even trivial crime records, and very severe penalties starting with whole-life prison apply for illegal possession – I think that would work, even in the US. The reason crime has worsened in the UK despite the gun ban is because the ordinary Joe has had to pay for the criminal bankers’ thefts through massive cuts to policing when the criminal population (including imported) has gone out of control.
      I was in a UK gun club 50 years ago (hot stuff with a PPK) and remember some of the weirdos there with me. They were not people I’d want to walk my dog.
      Bear in mind that some violent and refractory incomer populations with political/religious agendas are set to double every 10 years. You want them armed too?
      Also – I believe the Swiss are having second thoughts after a spate of incidents.

  3. Oh, and referring to small willies, I wonder to what length your willie might shrivel if confronted by four or five strong young yobs flashing knives at you in a strange darkened street? Much better to have a small willie and a big gun in such situations! Forty years ago, whilst waiting to rendezvous with my wife, I deterred an attack by three drunken yobs in Southend-on-sea with an aluminium bar I retrieved from my nearby car. One was intent on pissing in the doorway from which my wife was to exit and I pulled him away and told him why to which he and his two ‘mates’ threatened to ‘floor me’. I kept the 30″ rectangular hollow bar as a defensive weapon after a road-rage attack on me and just holding that meant that no one was injured and, after threats to put me in hospital, they decided that a blow from my bar was not worth risking and moved off.

  4. I happen to have a property in France and I’m well aware of German atrocities like oradour sur glane. which is only a couple of hours from where I am. The French inflate the role of the resistance to, in my opinion, assuage their shame over their capitulation to the Germans. However, pitiful though the resistance was in the overall scheme in defeating Germany, the heroism in risking and giving their lives is not to be mocked. Your disdain and flawed interpretation for the second amendment to the American constitution is not supported by consecutive supreme court decisions on the subject which ensures the right to bear arms by individual citizens or perhaps you prefer direct legislative action like that practised by Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler.

    • That successive judges – politically picked – support something is neither here nor there. They banned abortion, then relented, and might go back on that again – the moral issues of anything, whether they grasp them or not, remain.
      As to the amendment – the difficulty which is exploited by gun nuts is in the poor drafting. ‘Well regulated’ obviously clashes with ‘shall not be infringed’ since regulation is an infringement. So we have to think for ourselves and accept uncertainty: that means being pragmatic and cautious like good Conservatives and eschewing doctrinaire solutions. We have to use our emotional selves as well as rational. The US has about 10,000 gun murders (if we chop out the 20,000 suicides) every year. Many of these are tragedies beyond imagining – like the schools and the one yesterday when some jerk shot a three year old dead in a driving dispute. Something has to be done surely?

  5. Ah, I suspect a supporter of the Democrat Party. I’m sure that the police in Vichy France would have looked after your interests – providing you are not Jewish of course.

    • Nope. Trump, despite his loose talk and character flaws, is better than any available alternative. I’m surprised that he has not followed through on gun control – he could do it and talk sense to fruitcakes like no one else.
      Your French history is way off. Vichy France was most of France and the so-called resistance was pitiful – less active than the IRA during a truce. Had they been busier, like I said, whole villages would have been murdered: end of resistance. The French willingly caved in to Germany and were more assiduous Jew-hunters than Germans. They were not allies of Britain, never have been, are not now, and never will be.

      If we stick to the letter of the amendment then we are limited to a flintlock apiece, but do you really think that stern moralists like Hamilton and Jefferson would have regarded the slaughtering of children and workmates with insouciance? Most of the trouble is in the slave states is it not – like Pakistan and the like, decades of inbreeding have cut mental capacity to the size of a peanut, and compassion, justice and morality are entirely evanescent.

      God bless America and Donald Trump – up to a point).

  6. I wholeheartedly agree with our editor’s article – ‘Cyber Police’ – in the summer edition of the S.R. on how big business and their political allies want us to be happy little consumers and not to challenge their dream of a new-world-order. He fears the censorship for critics of the politically acceptable doctrine cast into the electronic outer darkness, for example, the ‘irrational fear’ of Islam and the IRA and quotes Stalin as saying “we only have to persecute the innocent for the guilty to fear us”. Dr. Miles Harris finishes with being concerned that denying freedom of speech can lead to political chaos, poverty, exploitation, and slavery. Why then does he support denying lawful ownership and use of firearms to law-abiding citizens as in the United States and the Czech Republic by publishing Dr. Berenice Langdon’s article – Bang bang, your dead – in the winter edition? If freedom of speech and expression is denied and his vision of slavery is the result, surely an armed response is the only way to restore freedom seized by a tyrant. We celebrate the armed actions of the civilian French resistance to the German occupiers but deny that principle to ourselves. Have we become so timid and trusting of untrammelled authority that we shrink from the responsibility of our own defence? Even in present circumstances, the law in Britain denying the law-abiding person from having – even in his own home – an implement expressly for defending his/her person is open to prosecution and/or an action of assault from a burglar/attacker. In this age of runaway violent crime and murders in Britain, this leaves the law-abiding person defenceless. Crimes involving guns or knives is almost exclusively by career criminals, drug-crazed psychopaths, or known mentally disturbed individuals who are often wrongly labelled as ‘terrorists’. A armed police officer is sanctioned to defend himself/herself with deadly force and very rarely prosecuted for wrongful use of a firearm even when an unarmed suspect is shot dead (re. Stephen Waldorf). Why then is it not permitted for an elderly and vulnerable law-abiding citizen to have for defence even a pepper-spray?! In the Czech Republic – a member state of the E.U. – law-abiding citizens cannot be denied a simple driving-licence style licence to buy, own, and carry concealed in public a powerful handgun for self defence; I have no news reports of Prague streets running in blood! Whether we are in or out of the E.U. we are increasingly in the grip of authoritarian governance conceived in Rome in 1957 and the alliance of big-business, the cultural left, and their attendant politicians has set on a path to a world-wide authority and an end to real democratic freedom. The frothing hostility to Brexit and President Trump is testament to the intolerance of this movement to any opposition for its authoritarian aims dressed up as ‘human rights’.

    • 100 plus murders a year in Czech Republic for a population of 10 million. Sounds high to me. Probably a high suicide rate too as in other gun-toting countries like the USA. Gun ownership in the USA has nothing to with defence against a possible tyrannical government: you’d need tanks and warplanes but tyrants halt opposition the way Soviets and Nazis did by slaughtering entire families and neighbourhoods. (It’s manufacturers and the NRA appealing to cowards and heartless thugs who flatter their phoney virtue, praise God, and oppose abortion- at least until the foetus is in school or in the back of mum’s car.)

      We have a police force – a well-regulated militia as it says in the famous misquoted amendment – not a free-for-all for dimwits and men compensating for their little dicks.

  7. Presumably the outcome of the trial now means that the members of the Muslim grooming gang have a strong argument to have their case re-heard.

    I put the point to the Attorney General that there is this paradox: finding Tommy guilty of contempt means he is guilty, or finding him innocent means he is innocent. The very act of finding him guilty or innocent creates the reality that he is guilty or innocent. Their most sensible option would have been to drop the case.

    My letter is dated 5th November 2018. You can read it by downloading my booklet “Hellish 2050”. The PDF is free:

  8. A disproportionate sentence that – sadly- serves to convince me that his claims of cover-ups are all too true. When the law lets us down, dissent grows in lawless places. These are shameful and dangerous times.